Here's the situation in as much of a nutshell as I can put it:
Frank was my sons cat and Rocky was mine. Franky developed an allergy to fleas that caused him to lick off most of the nice long fur on the lower half of his body. it also caused a 180degree shift in his personality. He went from being sweet and gentle to being really touchy and *mean*. He hisses and takes swipes at everyone. Sometimes he wants to be pet. I can tell by the way he practically jumps into my hand and rubs against my leg, but he's *growling* at the same time!!
Several things happened within about five months (in order): Franky started losing his hair and getting mean, Rocky vanished (and never came back), My boyfriend moved into the house next door and we got a new cat (after Rocky had been gone for 5 months) Dizzy. BTW - Frank has always liked my boyfriend very much.
Franky and Rocky were not very close. They tolerated each other. But Franky would not tolerate Dizzy. Dizzy was young, not a kitten but still more playful than Franky and Franky was not in the mood to play!
Franky's flea allergy was treated and his fur grew back, but his personality seems to be changed forever.
About two months after we got Dizzy Franky vanished. A few weeks later we found that he had moved in with a neighbor. Turns out that this neighbor had been in trouble with other neighbors for trying to steal their cats. We retreived him but he wouldn't stay. We tried locking him in the house but he was SO *nasty* to us. We were a little afraid of him. After several weeks of struggling with him we let him go to the neighbor. We visit him from time to time and he visits us from time to time. My son has been sad about it but at least they get to spend time together.
All of that was about a year ago.
Now for the problem: The neighbor is moving to a place that doesn't allow pets and she wants to give Franky back. Of *course* we want him. It would kill my son if she took him away. Me too. We would do almost anything to get him to come live with us again.
But what? What do we do? Franky still doesn't like Dizzy. He visits us in the yard but never comes in the house. His behaviour is almost ferral, what if he just "goes ferral" when his new owners leave?
I need advice, please!
Frank was my sons cat and Rocky was mine. Franky developed an allergy to fleas that caused him to lick off most of the nice long fur on the lower half of his body. it also caused a 180degree shift in his personality. He went from being sweet and gentle to being really touchy and *mean*. He hisses and takes swipes at everyone. Sometimes he wants to be pet. I can tell by the way he practically jumps into my hand and rubs against my leg, but he's *growling* at the same time!!
Several things happened within about five months (in order): Franky started losing his hair and getting mean, Rocky vanished (and never came back), My boyfriend moved into the house next door and we got a new cat (after Rocky had been gone for 5 months) Dizzy. BTW - Frank has always liked my boyfriend very much.
Franky and Rocky were not very close. They tolerated each other. But Franky would not tolerate Dizzy. Dizzy was young, not a kitten but still more playful than Franky and Franky was not in the mood to play!
Franky's flea allergy was treated and his fur grew back, but his personality seems to be changed forever.
About two months after we got Dizzy Franky vanished. A few weeks later we found that he had moved in with a neighbor. Turns out that this neighbor had been in trouble with other neighbors for trying to steal their cats. We retreived him but he wouldn't stay. We tried locking him in the house but he was SO *nasty* to us. We were a little afraid of him. After several weeks of struggling with him we let him go to the neighbor. We visit him from time to time and he visits us from time to time. My son has been sad about it but at least they get to spend time together.
All of that was about a year ago.
Now for the problem: The neighbor is moving to a place that doesn't allow pets and she wants to give Franky back. Of *course* we want him. It would kill my son if she took him away. Me too. We would do almost anything to get him to come live with us again.
But what? What do we do? Franky still doesn't like Dizzy. He visits us in the yard but never comes in the house. His behaviour is almost ferral, what if he just "goes ferral" when his new owners leave?
I need advice, please!
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Re: I need some cat advice. It's complicated....
Wed, February 1, 2006 - 2:12 PMthis is pretty awful stuff Beka! I mean that in the nicest way, but it must be emotionally hard on everyone, especially the kitties.
first thing is first....often times, we are able to choose our cats (mostly when they are kittens, or very young). but in reality, they chose us. they are the ones that chose to live with us, and we put up with them! (ha ha) They have us trained really well. If Franky doesnt want to stay, you cant force him to stay.
However, there are things still that you can try to do.
You might try getting the neighbors to bring Franky back to your home in a carrier. That little portable jail cell does things to a cat's psyche, and it might be enough to trigger a behaviroal change in him when he gets back to your new home.
If there was anyone he particularly bonded with while living with you, give him an article of their clothing to sleep on or play with. Those memories will help him feel more secure.
Ive had some experience lately with my old cat, and the kitten cat my housemate brought home. Maybe you could gain some insight from my story.
Apollo is the old cat, Zeike is the kitten. Apollo has special needs and has to have a certain kind of food. Zeike also is on special kitten food. Apollo started eating the kitten food, and instantly developed a skin problem, so we had to segregate the cats at meal time. That led to Apollo developing an "attitude" , much like your Franky. He was always hungry and always fighting with the kitten because he wanted his food. So, to solve that problem, we decided that it was ok for the kitten to eat Apollo's food, so we seperate the food containers in our own bedrooms, but Apollo's door is left open so that both the cats have access to food (or it seems that way, the dish is not always full because Apollo also has a weight problem). Once the kitten was allowed to share Apollo's food, they started getting along a LOT better, and now we call them our little Sumo Wrestlers because they actually get along and play together now, instead of constant hissing and howling.
Maybe there is something in this story you can use to help with Frank and Dizzy. Maybe somehow they just arent bonding, and sharing things might help. Or, conversely, you may have to spearate some things with them, like food; litter box; toys, play time. If Franky can bond back with you Id say try it. Keep him with you for days at a time, and only with you. Lock yourselves in a room for a weekend and watch tv together, play together, invite him to come into the bathroom wtih you (cats love that for some reason). Im sure that with hard work and determination, you will be able to keep your little Franky with you.
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Re: I need some cat advice. It's complicated....
Wed, February 1, 2006 - 3:18 PMa side note on the bathroom thingy. Most cats prefer running water to drink. If you turn on the sink for them, they will usually jump in for a drink. My cat has gone so far as to stand in my shower with me!
Just felt like sharing!
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Re: I need some cat advice. It's complicated....
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 7:22 PMThanks Luna,
We tried some of this stuff right after he moved out but he was so high sssstrung! OUr ankles were in grave danger! I like th cat carrier idea, I'll see if the neighbor is willing to help.
I was also considering herbal kitty dope. Has anyone ever heard of or tried these: www.petmedicinechest.com//feli...ss.asp
I'm thinking maybe for the first few days that he's back with us, locked in (which he hates) this stuff might him feel better (and the rest of us can relax a little). It's pricy to ship to Hawaii, but if it works it might be worth it. After a while we'll have to let him out again. I'm imagining he'll go up to the neighbors house and see that it's empty. Then he'll have to deceide...
Some other ideas I've had are to find out exactly what she's feeding him so that the move doesn't have to include a sudden change of diet. And maybe locking Dizzy outside for a few days... but I don't want him to dissapear! Maybe just keeping them in separate rooms.
He and my son were best friends. He slept with him every night and they played together all the time. When my son goes to visit him he always happy to see him and when Franky comes to visit us it my son he's there for.
Wendy- Rocky LOVED drinking running water out of the sink! Dizzy follows me to the bathroom and rolls around at my feet for pets. I think it's a "captive audience" thing! Franky would come running when we flushed to drink out of the toilet but was never interested in sink tap water.
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An Update
Wed, February 22, 2006 - 1:52 PMJust thought I'd update the situation. We kept Frankie in the house for four days. The first two were really hard. He growled and hissed constantly, 24 hours a day. Then he started to mellow out and his grumbling turned into meows, 24 hours a day. We didn't sleep much.
On day four he managed to squeeze through a window that was only open a crack. He was gone for a few hours then he came back! He came in and spent the night. Since then we've been letting him come and go as he pleases. If he stays gone for more than 12 hours we go find him and bring him in for a while.
On my vets advice I bought a product called Felaway. Since I plugged it in the two cats get along fine. Occasionally Dizzy gets too playful, Franky gives him one good smack-upside-da-head and it's over.
My only lingering concern is that Franky is likcking off all of his fur again. There are no fleas in sight, it's clearly a stress thing. I'm giving him Rescue Remedy and Calms. If he doesn't stop soon I'll take him to the vet. -
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Re: An Update
Wed, March 22, 2006 - 4:50 PMI just wonder if it isn't some other sort of allergy. There could be something else in your house....some kind of plant, or cleaning product, or dust....something else that might be causing an allergic reaction. Cats can be allergic to as many different things as people are. You might want to get a thorough allergy test done.
My thinking is that he doesn't want to come into your house, because there is something in there that makes him itch. When he itches all over, he becomes cranky.
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Re: An Update
Fri, March 24, 2006 - 11:10 AMI've never heard of Felaway and neither has my vet. What is it, how does it work, and where can I get it? -
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Re: An Update
Mon, March 27, 2006 - 8:23 AMFeliway is a product that contains cat pheremones. Here's a link to their website:
www.feliway.uk.com/feliway_uk.nsf/Page
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Re: An Update
Wed, March 29, 2006 - 4:55 PMI am utterly amazed at how well this stuff is working. Franky has been so sweet and wonderful. No fights between cats unless Dizzy really gets in-his-face and even then it's just a little warning swat.
As far as another allergy... don't think so. For one thing this most receent occurence started a week or so before he moved back into my house, while his onther mom was getting ready to move. It seems a clear case of nerves to me. He lived with me for 8 years without a problem before the first flea allergy started.
It's getting better. he looks terrible! Big bald patches, but it's growing back slowly. I'm SOOO happy to have him back and have everything be peaceful!
But guess what?! Now that the dust is settled, everybody is happy and comfy... My former neighbor calls me and tells me she wants him back!! Can you believe that? She was going to abandon him! AArgh! To fuel the flames she took my landlady to court and now is no longer allowed on the property. My landlady feels that she'll try to steal Franky just to be vindictive. We're keeping a close eye on him. Sigh.. cat drama. -
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Re: An Update
Thu, March 30, 2006 - 1:05 PMsounds like former neighbor might be a little unstable. Franky needs stability in his old age. Protect him well! :) glad things are getting back to peac and normal.
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